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I've grown tired of trying to talk sense into you;

:rollin i say :rollin

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I might as well be beating a dead horse expecting it to get up and move. You've proven that the British don't believe in logic and don't care to.


:rollin

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You can't ever use gun control in one country to suggest that it works or would work in another country, because it doesn't transfer over.


Not exactly, no. But then i am not saying introduce british gun control into the US, am i? I am saying that gun control needs to be implimented, you probably, with all your sense and logic just assume it means total gun control. Not so.

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You have to look at the entire culture, not just the laws. You have to check minority ratios, drugs, violence, family status, employment, social makeup, political stance, etc. for every single area. You can't just say "well this area has widespread legal gun ownership and doesn't restrict the types of arms that a person can own so obviously they have more gun violence for this reason" because it doesn't work like that.


Myself and infantry have spoken about this a lot, you chose not to participate too much, or had bad ideas.

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You've proven that you don't read my posts, because I provided evidence to prove that Japan isn't one of the so called "other developed nations with lower gun crime than in America" because everything points otherwise. If you read my post and visited the link


It is for you to make an argument, i am not going to chase up your points unless your present them in an argument.

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the link you would've seen the various sources cited and the evidence presented to show that the Japanese not only control guns, they also control every single aspect of life and keep close tabs on everybody; right down to their sexual preferences. The police have unlimited power and may do whatever they wish.


They do do this, but then america did this many years ago, the govt attempt to make people normal, be married a man and a woman because that is normal, not gay marriage because that is bad, etc etc.
Most of it comes from society, not from laws.

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The laws on life are so strict that Japan, in comparison, makes Britain look like America when it comes to rights and freedom. But since you chose to ignore the evidence I provided, you wouldn't know this.


But then i know plenty of japanese people and they are free, just constrained by society and what they are expected to do. But they can say no if they want.

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The burden of proof is not on me to prove that I'm right. The burden of proof is on you to prove I'm wrong.


The burden of proof falls upon the person making the argument, when they have made a good argument it then goes the other way, and backwards and fowards. If you continue to use this get out clause, you will get no where, you will still complain "no one listens to you", there is a reason.