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Jul 12 07 8:41 AM
Quote:The 2A does not protect everything to do with a gun.
Quote:YOu have to remember this, "rights" only came about because of governments existing.
Quote:Human beings are animals, so if you say that in 2000 BC humans had the "right" to invent guns, then so did lions, tigers and all other animals. And they still do.
Quote:Oh, and most people who carried clubs and spears used these to "infringe on anothers rights" it was warfare, survival of the fittest.
Quote:Can you imagine in 2000 BC, you have a club and are about to kill some guy and he turns around and says "you have no right to do that", you would just beat him and laugh at the same time.
Quote:Secondly, the 2A is important here, because the BoR prevents the govt from doing things, it prevents the govt making laws that stop individuals who have not broken the law or are a risk to society from keeping arms, ie no action but possessing arms, and fighting in the militia. The founding fathers were clear on this.
Quote:YOu can have the "right" to grow carrots for all i care, i can still go around your house and destroy your carrots, so what? Are your "rights" going to do anything at all???
Quote:Remember this, mormons cannot do all their religious stuff, why not? They cannot be married to two women! There is a reason for this, had the mormon religion been the main christian offshoot, then it would have been accepted as normal, but because it is not so old, they decided that this is not religious enough to be protected, so they banned it.
Quote:And if this were religion, or any of the other "rights" in the BoR, it is not "tough cookies" is it. Criminals have a limited "right" to religion in prison, ie no going to mecca, but still allowed to pray in prison.
Quote:You just said it is tough cookies if a criminal has their "right" infringed upon. The law that says a criminal cannot have a gun after leaving prison is a GUN BAN!!!! YOu seem to be in favour of this gun ban.
Quote:Or laws which you think violate your "rights". Seeing as carry and conceal is not protected by the 2A, yet most people assume that the 2A protects their "right" to carry, it does not wash. The bearing arms clause protects an individual to be in the militia, nothing more.
Quote:It might rain though!!
Quote:Would you get a carry and conceal license, even though it is unconstitutional for the government to license or tax a "right"????
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