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Jul 13 07 6:32 AM
Quote:I never said it did. It does protect my individual right to keep and bear arms.
Quote:You will notice here that I said "protects" as opposed to "grants". The BOR does not grant rights it only helps to protect us from Gov't infringment on rights we are born with.
Quote:Wrong, rights are not something given to us by gov't. Rights are something everyone has regardless of the gov't they live or don't live under. For instance, every person in Iran has the right to freedom of religion. They also have a gov't that violates that right, something they should work to change. Every person living in the UK has the right to keep and bear arms. They also have a gov't that violates that right, something they should work to change.
Quote:Give me a break. No wonder you can't grasp the concept of human rights, you can't even see the difference between people and animals.
Quote:I wasn't there but I would guess that those spears were also used for hunting, fishing, and "gasp" self defense.
Quote:First of all, I wouldn't be infringing upon him like that.
Quote:But if some one was going to club me I would sure be glad I have the right to my own club to defend myself with.
Quote:Once again, the BOR has no bearing on what rights I have as a person. BTW your theory that the 2A allows people to keep but not bear arms is laughable and unworthy of discussion.
Quote:In a way yes. Before you go stomping my carrots you may want to remember I have the right to keep that club we talked about earlier. A bad example, but it shows how the RKBA can be used to protect the others.
Quote:Actually your helping my point here. This is an example of gov't infringing on rights. If all parties are consentual, gov't should stay out of it. If my chosen religion permitted polygomy (sp?) then I would practice it, it would be my right, just as it would be the right of others not to practice it.
Quote:Exactly my point, people who violate the rights of others forfeit their own. Sometimes to a limited degree, sometimes completely. When they commited their crime against others they gave their rights over to the will of others.
Quote:The difference is the criminal knowingly commits an act that will forfeit his rights to some degree. A DC style ban takes rights from innocent people who have not chosen to surrender them.
Quote:Again the 2A does not grant me rights, it only helps protect them. I have the RKBA regardless of how you or anyone else may missinterpret the 2A.
Quote:Not relevent where I live, concealed carry is legal without one. Alaska is truly a wonderful state.
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