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Jul 13 07 5:39 PM
Quote:Even the Government does not recognize it as a universal right. Maybe in 6 years when you get to high school you will learn something in civics class.
Quote:What you are saying is not clear to me. Remember this, many people think that "keep and bear arms" means hunting, carry and conceal, walking into a store with a gun, walking around doing what you like with a gun except shooting at people. Not so. You need to be more precise with your definition of "keep and bear arms" because many people use it in many different ways.
Quote:I know the theory.
Quote:The problem here is that i dont believe in "rights" and it is not important in this debate at all.
Quote:The theory of "rights" did not exist 1,000 years ago, like it or not,
Quote:Difference means nothing, i am different to you, does that mean i don`t have "rights"??
Quote:Says an educated man. You wouldnt have been educated, you would have used basic instincts, nothing else. The theory of "rights" did not exist and you wouldnt have been able to understand it anyway.
Quote:A) That is not my theoryB) What the BoR does say, is important, the fact that you say you have the "right" to it is less important. As i said, if someone is beating you and you say you have the "right" to self defence, it means nothing. YOu still get an arse whooping!!
Quote:So if i say something is part of my religion, then i can do it, murder etc? Hell no. Also, you say that the govt infringes upon the "rights" of others, so what? What does it matter? What matters is that people are willing to fight the govt, they are prepared to act, not simply to moan because they claim they have something.
Quote:If you have a gun, and you KNOW it is illegal to have that gun, then i would say you are knowingly committing an act that will forfeit your "rights".
Quote:You ignored the question. Carry and conceal CAN BE licensed, yet a "right" cannot be licensed. Either, carry and conceal laws which are supported by the NRA are unconstitutional, or the 2A does not protect carry and conceal.
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