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Jul 13 07 5:26 PM
Quote:But i have not had to. I probably would defend myself, but hopefully i never will have to.
Quote:That is not what i said, i am saying that i dont have to, because the situations where a person needs to defend themselves in the UK and europe in general are much lower than in the US.
Quote:Take our crime rates and compare them, you get a similar story, some are slightly higher, some are slightly lower. What we are missing though are all those supposed DGUs which are not reported, about 2 million of them apparently.
Quote:And i have decided that, that is why i dont live in the USA. In the US you are more likely to be attacked than in the UK.
Quote:Or you can decide not to be attacked in the first place. I dont need to show if i am weak or strong, i just dont want to be attacked.
Quote:Of course, but then what is your point to this statement?
Quote:That not everyone wants a gun, so there are more guns in society, and those who do not want a gun are much more at risk than if they were in the UK.
Quote:YOu have the choice to prevent crime before it happens. That is why in europe there is often less crime.
Quote:Like you I haven't had to defend myself or a loved one either and I have lived in DC, Chicago, NYC and Miami.
Quote:So you say there is more violent crime but less people are dying. That must be because victims of crime in the UK are better at defending themselves against violent crime.
Quote:And they don't have guns so you just shot down your argument about needing guns for self defense.
Quote:Of course i would do what i thought best in the situation, but that does not change the fact that i can look at the whole thing from a wider perspective.
Quote:Of course you cant, and i am not against self defence, carry and conceal or any of these things. What i am against are gun owners turning around and saying that they have nothing to do with criminals getting guns.
Quote:It may not be something direct, but certainly by not wanting laws to be changed to make it harder for criminals to get guns, then they are passively participating.
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